Smaller Indiana is as Stuffy as Real Indiana...

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Permalink Reply by Mike Magan on November 9, 2009 at 2:24pm

Great points from both of you, I have seen the vitriol and the hate-speak coming from people who agree and disagree with me on other topics. At the same time isn't it OK for debate (point counter-point) to become HEATED and sometimes angry debate as long as the motives are trying to convince someone with facts that support an opposing view as opposed to sticking a complaint up on a wall.

Matthew is not the first to criticize SI or Hoosiers in general, but aren't I allowed to provide a counterpoint? That's what debate / conversation is to me. When you make statement like SI is "stuffy," I don't know you well enough to know what word means on its own - call me a slow Hoosier - but I need context.

Whether you wanted to "irk" people or not, this is a great conversation, let's keep it going here so people can engage instead of disconnecting the conversation.

I readily admit to "drinking to SI Kool aid" as it were and my viewpoint does fall in line more often with Hoosier sentiments. Despite the fact I disagree with what you have said here, Matthew, and what Joe has said in some forums, I still genuinely appreciate seeing Joe at lunatic or Burgerquest Lunch, or show up in forum conversation.

You seem to want ot change SI into something better than it is now. To move away from its current "stuffy, click-y and unoriginal" version. I'm listening? Where do we go from here?

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Permalink Reply by Marita Topmiller on November 9, 2009 at 5:32pm

All points of view must be taken into account to get a complete picture of anything.
But first, they must be heard. Most people are shy to express what they believe if
those beliefs seem to deviate from the norm. We know we'll be shot down, our
intelligence, patriotism, etc questioned. That's a shame.

Many of us dislike being boxed into a label as well. We are all so much more
than our position on abortion or god/God, sexuality, politics, etc.

The old adage, "never talk religion or politics," is often followed by members on
SI. When these topics are covered, they are often covered by those comfortable
that they are in the majority opinion. People let down their guard in conversation
with friends.

I haven't checked through the list of various groups on SI lately. Wonder if there
are any nihilists here...

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Permalink Reply by Joe Shoemaker on November 10, 2009 at 8:50am

There is a Secular Humanists group, and I invite anyone who might be interested to check in there.

Secular Humanists Group

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Permalink Reply by Ben McCann on November 11, 2009 at 2:16am

I love this group, it is one of the most honest groups on this website by the way.

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Permalink Reply by Ben McCann on November 11, 2009 at 2:21am

jk :o), But I do think that Cat Story is friggin hilarious ... wow.... bubby and sissy and Jesus in the fur... that is how we know we are in indiana.

Permalink Reply by Ben McCann on November 11, 2009 at 2:13am

This picture below is just funny. It was probably created to mock or make fun of midwestern values, but It's still funny and I like it.

@mathewwilson: I don't know what you were looking for here, but if it was a homosexual hookup, baby killing festival or celebration, or a tree hugapolooza ... you might find that in Bloomington (Where I grew up) or Chicago Suburbs, or on Mass Ave., I am glad that you didn't find it here.

Since when does one's bedroom preferences make a site "interesting? everyone doesn't agree about everything, but Joe Shoemaker is right (as much as I hate uttering those words ;o)

7000 members, but most of us have lives... Companies to run, families to attend to... those members who spend more than 1 hour a day on Smaller Indiana need to get a life... everything in moderation right?... well, except for crack... crack is bad, can we agree on that, because chances are we don't agree on much else.

thanks for you thoughts, SI is a little stuffy, there are a lot of great unique creative people on here, many of them just read aren't the personality types to "put it out there" with their opinions.

P.S. I am creative, I recycle, I am politically Centered, I am a Christian, I am a White, Middle Class, Male ( although I think that all those terms do is put me in a box or limit me just like you. )

"Who You ARE precedes What you do"

Now quit your whining and get back to work.

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Permalink Reply by Ben McCann on November 11, 2009 at 2:15am

P.S. my profile pic is a shout out or immitation (flattery) of Joe's :o)

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Permalink Reply by Chris Doyle on November 25, 2009 at 12:24am

LOL @ JesusLand!!!

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Permalink Reply by Deanna Sipe on November 12, 2009 at 7:22pm

Great post Joe. I think you are dead on.

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Permalink Reply by Anika Hutchinson on November 26, 2009 at 12:16pm

Thank you Joe! That's what I was expressing on another post and was challenged or criticized for my thoughts.

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Permalink Reply by Cody Fague on November 9, 2009 at 10:15pm

Well Matt, you sure know how to shake up the hive. props!

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Permalink Reply by matthew w. wilson on November 10, 2009 at 12:51am

thanks, i think. haha.

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