Boobs-N-Business

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Permalink Reply by Michael R. on December 13, 2009 at 8:38pm

"a beautiful smile could put one candiate over the top in interviews"

And I guess you'd be o.k. with that, right? *slaps forehead* And, I don't have a problem with you, I just don't agree with some of the things you've stated on this thread.

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Permalink Reply by John Cannon on January 5, 2010 at 3:48am

Disagreeing with someone is one thing. Being rude and disrespectful is another.

There were more tactful ways to get your point across and still be respectful of one another.

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Permalink Reply by Rebecca Monninger on January 4, 2010 at 5:03am

All so true.

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Permalink Reply by Ted Myers on December 8, 2009 at 10:49pm

I believe many (ok, SOME) of the women coming into the work force are modeling themselves after the "professionals" they see on TV. No matter what the profession on TV -- doctor, lawyer, police officer, etc., the women are showing more skin that is generally considered acceptable in the conservative midwest (We ARE in Indiana, after all). Maybe that's the way people actually fress in the big metro areas and on the coasts. (?)

I find that sort of attire "distracting," to say the least. I would not want a person showing lots of skin trying to sell software (that's computer software); I'm afraid it would do us a great disservice.

The short answer is, "They shouldn't aughta do it!"

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Permalink Reply by Steven B.Adams on December 11, 2009 at 8:03am

If the "Pole Dancer" with the cleavage is also brilliant in her business.........she will rule, and without mercy

If she is ...not so bright....but very pleasant for guys to look at......she will... have a job... and be a small joke that everyone knows....

If the lady is a bun-be-decked frump, but brilliant she will do very well...and.... no one will ever be fresh with her..

Most intelligent males will certainly know the difference between them all ..........if they want to remain successful.

This is a man's perspective, apologies for the brutality of this .....but that... is the way it is....and the cleavage thing works and that's why they do it....

Some men are terrible like this.....and some women are no better for playing that hand...

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Permalink Reply by Mike Magan on December 14, 2009 at 8:56pm

The original question about boobs got me thinking . . . about something other than boobs. My gut reaction to the post is yes they are an advantage, but as I tried to write an honest response, I really came to realize that for me -- ONE GUY -- boobs or a curvaceous rear or a beautiful face are part of the equation in a professional setting, but don't attract me to the sale independent of everything else. This post about one physical attribute is a great conversation starter about appearance but its practical application just breaks down doesn't it?

Sure there's a college fraternity party guy inside me that might come out at a Colts game or bachelor party, but he's not there in professional settings or most settings. Plus I have a 12 y/old daughter and that has TOTALLY changed the way I "size up" a woman.

It is easy to prove a point with extremes - big boobs (attractive) vs hairy armpits (ugly) to drive home a point. But in reality I think most people find the opposite sex in general attractive, fewer are beautiful and a fraction are just heart-stopping gorgeous. But I can do business with all of them and I presume while I might be more excited initially at the DDG woman, sincerity wins in the end.

Ultimately what we find attractive in someone is a reflection of what we value in ourselves.

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Permalink Reply by Annie Sever-Dimitri on December 18, 2009 at 6:39pm

Good point, Mike! What we find attractive or unattractive in others is a reflection of what we value in ourselves.

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Permalink Reply by Katy Gunderson on December 16, 2009 at 4:58am

Women who dress in an unprofessional manor are often perceived as just that, unprofessional. They may gain the attention they seek by showing off their "assets" but they will never gain respect. However in my experience that is never what they are after. In situations I have been in where a girl has been given more responsibilities based solely on the fact that she stood out from the rest of the crowd because of her dress, she usually fell flat (no pun intended) when it came time to do her job.

Thanks for posting this by the way. It is a problem for many young women just starting out in the business world.

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Permalink Reply by Cody Fague on January 4, 2010 at 5:56pm

just wanted to post in this absurd thread

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Permalink Reply by John Cannon on January 5, 2010 at 3:35am

Personally, I don't mind. Now, before you jump on the "sure ya don't, you're a guy!" bandwagon, please let me explain. While it's true that I'm a red-blooded guy who enjoys beautiful scenery like anyone else, it's also true that I am (I'd like to think) an intelligent guy. I know that sex sells, we all do. And we all know when someone is trying to use it to sell their services or products to us. And you know what? We buy anyway. You know why? SEX SELLS, weren't ya paying attention? lol

Okay, now get your eyes off my gorgeous rotund figure and listen to me for a second, I actually am going somewhere with this that doesn't involve a hotel room fantasy (c'mon, you know you want me, lol). The point I'm trying to make is, when a woman is displaying her cleavage and is in a business professional situation, it doesn't bother me for several reasons. She may be doing it to help her sales numbers, but also:
1. She may be doing it because it makes her feel good to feel sexy. When we feel good and confident, we do our jobs better.
2. She may be doing it because it makes her feel good to feel sexy. I know I just said that, but lets go down another path: some women will wear a sexy undergarment that no one at work will ever see because it makes HER feel sexy about HERSELF. Perhaps the woman that you see with her cleavage is just wearing an outer garment for the same reason.
3. Let's face it, if she's on your team and selling FOR you, then the numbers don't lie; men are more likely to buy from attractive women. I know of a jewelry store at a mall (out of state) where the owner REQUIRES his employees to dress in skimpy or sexy clothing...and he does a LOT of business WITHOUT having a lot of sales.

Also, personally, I think it's nice when a woman IS feeling sexy and confident isn't afraid to show it. Sure, she doesn't have to put on a show about it, quite the contrary. I personally find that a woman who is confident, knows she sexy and isn't afraid to be herself and feel sexy at work is someone I can actually respect more for being herself (as long as she's not obviously using said cleavage strictly for sales purposes, then it has the opposite effect). Here's my example, a couple of decades ago, it was all the rage for a businessman to wear a beard (GASP!). It said he was a rebel, it said he wasn't afraid to shake things up, be his own man, go against the "system" and still be a success. People fell on three sides of that issue: they didn't care, thought he should shave and "grow up", and those that respected him more for his little act of anti-Gillette rebellion.

Why should sexy clothes for a woman be any different? She IS a woman, she's not a man, why not revel in that fact? So what if she works in the same workplace as I do? I don't expect her to have to wear the same suits I do to get the job done, I don't expect her to walk the way I walk, talk the way I talk or eat the way I eat. As long as she gets the job done and does it in a manner consistent w/the business owner's principles, then why should we stifle her personality and make her dress in a certain manner? Obviously, there are limits; I'm not talking about tank tops for a female lawyer, but if she wants to sexy AND professional....then I'd not only approve of it, but ENCOURAGE it and respect it.

Just my two cents, for what it's worth.....and in this economy, it's worth about ONE cent. lol
--John Cannon
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